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RELIGION AND SCIENCE
The implicate order implies a reality immensely beyond what we call matter.
Matter itself is merely a ripple in this background.
Physicist David Bohm,1917-1992, Fellow of the Royal Society
This excerpt below is taken from the pending novel ELYSIUM'S PASSAGE: QUANTUM LEAPS (Book Four). The following discussion is a debate among the characters, James (the protagonist), Mo and Eli on the compatibility of religion and science.
Obviously, this is only a thumbnail sketch of what might be considered on this topic, however, the dialogues in the series of Elysium novels goes into much greater depth of science and spirituality. Also, the posts at the end are suggested for further reading on this subject.
Chapter 12, Virtual Science
By the time I returned, I had given a lot of thought to what my upcoming adventure might involve. Obviously, being in a spirit body can be a real game-changer, especially when you hang out with chaps like Mo and Eli. There was no precedent for any of this, at least that I knew of, which meant I had no way of knowing what I should expect with this virtual tour, which left me even more full of questions.
We settled down by the fireplace with a pot of Turkish tea for more serious discussion about this Magical Mystery Tour.
‘What are your thoughts on what we proposed?’ Mo asked. ‘If we are to reckon time in terms of the earth’s rotation and the apparent sinking of the sun below the horizon now, you were gone for quite a spell.’
‘Considering everything you and Eli were talking about this morning, I have only confused thoughts. I have plenty more questions I need you to clarify about this MMT even if you said it doesn’t matter that much if I do or don’t know everything before getting on board.
‘I cannot imagine a ship that penetrates some virtual wormhole in the aether to emerge somewhere in virtual reality, at least that’s how I imagine it from what you’ve said. So, if you would tell me what kind of science makes such a virtual tour possible?’
As Mo poured my cup of hot tea, he said, ‘First of all, let’s be clear about what earth assumes to be science. It is far too limiting to explain much of anything outside the earthly dimension. In fact, there are still many physicists in your world who still refuse to believe in higher dimensions of existence in spite of the evidence in the field of quantum mechanics.’
‘As I recall,’ I said, ‘this remains a rather controversial topic in my university’s physics department. I’m not sure who will win the debate.’
‘Well,’ he said, ‘as I keep repeating, if science wishes to understand anything at all about the nature of reality, it must first recognize it has been looking in the wrong direction for far too long. The foundation of reality is energy, which is an emanation of Spirit from the Source. Unfortunately, your modern science not only neglects but becomes openly hostile towards Spirit, just as religion was once hostile to science not that long ago.’
‘It’s unfortunate,’ Eli said, ‘that too few recognize the necessity of having mutual regard for the other. It was Einstein who once said: Science without religion is lame. Religion without science is blind.’
‘But for as long as science reacts against the existence of Spirit,’ Mo said, ‘rather than allow for what it can never know within its purview, it will continue to degenerate into unsavoury scientism that has lost its vision for truth and objectivity. As we’ve discussed, materialism remains deeply entrenched in the scientific intelligentsia of the earth plane. Long gone is the humility of Newton who understood the greater scope of reality. By limiting itself to materialist presuppositions, it can never be rooted in anything deeper or higher than itself.
‘That’s why science becomes so easily exploited by whatever research grant a political agenda will buy its services. Science can be used to claim to prove almost anything it wishes. Call it what you will,’ Mo said, ‘scientism or pseudo-science, but junk science has become more prevalent than ever. It supports itself with graphs designed by rigged computer models that are parameterized with fudged statistics that will provide whatever evidence is needed to prove its hypothesis.
‘Too often it’s about power, money, ideology and conquest that drives scientism since it has no higher master to inform it. What is considered truth is based on whatever beliefs are expedient in achieving certain self-serving ends, be it political, religious or personal. Unfortunately, that’s what scientism does whenever it can get away with it while operating with impunity under the guise and credibility of empirical science.’
‘Whoa; wait a minute, Mo,’ I said. ‘Those are rather harsh words, even coming from you. Are you saying that science, though it has been highly regarded on earth has now deteriorated into a detriment to truth?’
‘No, not at all,’ he said. ‘To clarify my position, let me put it this way. Science is science. But over the last couple of centuries, many of the world’s scientists have willfully compromised science by separating it from its Source. In fact, most orthodox scientists say it is Spirit that compromises Science, and therefore no external point of reference outside of science is permitted. It is a closed system.’
That’s interesting,’ I said. ‘I remember Jean-Paul Sartre once said that no finite point has meaning without an infinite reference point.’
‘It does seem ironic he would say that,’ Mo said, ‘considering he was an atheist. In fact, rather uncharacteristic. Too bad modern scientists haven’t twigged on to the implications of what he was saying. But then, perhaps Sartre didn’t either.’
‘Scientists are probably too busy examining their beakers to consider this,’ Eli said. ‘Unfortunately, their myopic attitudes have compromised what should be regarded as 'science.' When they oppose anything that’s outside their purview, things become self-referential, and that’s not good science. As I’ve said, it’s scientism: a misguided approach to science that seeks to aggressively pursue its insular prejudices through disqualifying and dismissing those with contrary views, especially anything related to Spirit.’
‘If you are right about this,’ I said, ‘I suppose that’s why attempts to reconcile science and religion don’t end well... at least from what I’ve witnessed at university forums.’
‘And they never will,’ Mo said, ‘until the scientific community understands what the underlying problem is. It all relates back to the topic of consciousness and why it’s not possible for science to apply its lower-order reductionism to gain an understanding of consciousness. There is no credible way for science to subject it to the scientific method and so has no inkling of what consciousness is. At best, they can only study its neural effects but here is nothing objective about consciousness because it emanates, not from the brain, but ultimately the divine Spirit. Its very nature transcends the possibility of quantification, be it scientific, religious or anything else.
‘Furthermore, how can anyone be conscious of consciousness when consciousness, under their terms of reference, is supposed to be able to examine itself? It can’t be done. Max Planck understood this when he said, I regard consciousness as fundamental and matter derivative from consciousness. That’s someone else they needed to listen to, but if they haven’t by now they never will.’
‘It’s rather astounding he would make such a bold, unequivocal statement, I said.’
‘Yes, so bold,’ Eli said, ‘and also so obvious... at least from his informed perspective. Since it’s true, how can any reductionist say they know what the nature of consciousness is? Saying what it isn’t is hardly the same as saying what it is. This is just one example where scientism, in the name of science, ignores and dismisses even the most basic reality to protect its bastions of belief.
‘Perhaps, James, after you return you will notice how the topic of consciousness is hardly discussed in the Flatlands. In fairness, it probably has more to do with general ignorance than intentional evasion of the topic.‘
 Max Planck (1858-1947), Nobel Prize in Physics (1918), as quoted in The Observer (1931)
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WHAT'S THE MATTER
SUMMARY OF ELYSIUM'S PASSAGE: THE SUMMIT
This the first in a series of five Elysium narrations regarding a young British philosopher named James Phillips who finds himself living in an altered state of reality while still remaining on earth.
After experiencing a near-fatal fall while climbing to the summit of a remote mountain in the Andes, James awakens in a new dimension. He soon encounters two mysterious beings who provide him with a very different perspective on the nature of his existence. Over the next year, before his body recovers from the coma, he is challenged to re-examine his understanding about life’s meaning and purpose far beyond anything he previously believed or could believe.
An engaging and sometime surreal adventure with intimations of impending romance, the narrative explores the most important questions about life, death, reality and our ultimate destiny.
The Plains of Elysium (Champs-Élysées) was described by Homer, Hesiod, Virgil and many other poets as the paradisiac afterlife realm reserved for heroes. As the title suggests, this is about a journey through a passage that leads towards Elysium’s exciting realm of existence.
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"A delightful mix of fantasy, reality, conjecture and humour; Mr Meyers draws the reader into the story with a gentle narrative that captures the imagination, leaving one anxious to get to the next page drawing you into his exceptional world.”
"Quietly, gently, and without imposition, the Author unfolds the pages, creating an intricate, interlocking bridge spanning the chasm between mind and heart. Renewing, refreshing, restoring. In my bereavement, it was vigil and light…"
“Excellently written with an exceedingly deep understanding of this world and the next. The characters are very well written and engaging. I can't wait to complete this book!"
“Takes the reader on both a philosophical and spiritual journey, a journey that at times is both disquieting and tranquil. James, a British Philosopher can be irreverent and caustic, traits that should have left me cringing, but instead made me laugh out loud. Elysium’s Passage is a fun, enlightening and remarkable book.”
“This is a masterful fantasy, becoming a real possibility, as the reader is drawn into the story. The Summit leaves you anxious for the next book in the series, yet also leaves you totally satisfied with the world you have just visited. Genius! An exciting, yet calming, experience that is not to be missed."
"There was hardly a page on which I did not find at least one sentence worthy of hi-lighting for future reference. In addition, I thoroughly enjoyed the main character, James, whose personality and passionate verbal exchanges with the other characters, kept me coming back for more. I am reading the book for a second time while I wait for the next one in this series to be made available."
“N.G. Meyers has clearly put a great deal of research and thought into what the afterlife may look like and I like his perspective. It’s an altogether welcoming and exciting vision. The book gives one a great deal to think about and a reassuring confidence that the end of our lives is truly the beginning of life in the next. I highly recommend it."
"I am really enjoying your book, it’s fantastic! It is so incredible and diversified that I can’t really explain it to other people, so what I say is just read this book. Thank you so much for the blessings that you’ve given the world!"
“The humour interjected into a serious discussion makes me laugh out loud. Totally unexpected....l may be in the presence of at least a master, if not a genius. A fair ride into reality... seeking that which is unseen, yet absolutely real.”
“An engaging story of adventure embracing man's deepest desire to search for meaning and purpose, N.G. Meyers takes the reader on an adventurous thought-provoking journey. This book has substance. It is a perfect blend of adventure and fantasy combined with spiritual philosophy. It ignited my imagination. The author magically weaves a good story laced with wit and humour together with deep philosophical wisdom. This book has it all!”
“An evolution in thought is triggered by many fresh philosophical themes which could inspire readers to re-think their reality and former ideologies that have dictated their lives… the author fires readers’ imaginations to view what could be possible when spirit vacates the body.”
“This is the book spiritual seekers have been waiting for. For me, it granted a great read as well as increased inspiration to live every day with a heightened sense of purpose. I highly recommend it.
“The Summit is capable of hooking readers and luring them to search for Book 2 to discover more about Dr. Philip’s surreal trek into the mysterious unknown universe. This thick book is well worth the read and to share…”
“Mind-blowing statements and speculation (‘…everyone is a non-physical thought form conceived in the Mind of God, preserved for all eternity because God’s thoughts never die…’). Many will find Meyers’ journey up the Mountain intriguing—and possibly even life-changing.” (BLUEINK REVIEW)
“In its effort to grapple with fundamental questions about the meaning of life, it raises questions that have echoed throughout the ages, including about where we come from, where we are going, who we are.” (CLARION REVIEW)